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    Re: End of Christianity...

    First of all I never said they have "higher" morals. I've said it numerous times and I'll say it again...

    The whole point is that just because you believe in Christianity, that doesn't mean you are a better person or have better morals...and just because you are an atheist/agnostic, doesn't mean you are a bad person and have none.


    And yes, I backed that up. The whole prison population argument pretty much took care of that part.


    I've ignored it because I have no idea what it's relevance is. I say the Old Testament is full of violence and you say the New is really what we are supposed to follow. So we ignore the old? You're saying thats the radical part and because Christianity has gotten older and we've realized that it's outdated and not supposed to do things like that. I've said before, I love Jesus...good people.

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    Re: End of Christianity...

    Quote Originally Posted by Burton13 View Post
    Never said they were "better off". I was talking about crime rates, teen pregnancy rates, divorce rates etc. I'll try to find the most recent study, but Japan, France and Sweden were near the top.
    "First of all I never said they have "higher" morals."??????????????????????????????
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    "And yes, I backed that up. The whole prison population argument pretty much took care of that part."

    You think!?!? I don't.

    First, how do we determine these numbers? All polls are flawed at their core.

    Lets look at some variables on this subject.

    First, if you asked these inmates if they considered themselves Christians prior to their arrests I bet you would get a much lower percentage than you do in an after conviction poll.

    I would also bet that many who might be tempted to claim no belief in God prior to conviction will give a somewhat different answer while under the stress of prison life.

    There is a lot of truth to the old saying, "there are no atheists on death row".

    I would also like to know if the polls were done in complete secrecy. If not, I'm surprised there are any atheists in prison.

    I will concede that an other reason could be money. Young atheists tend to be from affluent families. Kids with money seldom end up in prison whether they deserve to or not.

    "I've ignored it because I have no idea what it's relevance is."

    It was relevant to a whole line of the debate.

    "You're saying thats the radical part and because Christianity has gotten older and we've realized that it's outdated and not supposed to do things like that."

    No, I'm saying that Jesus brought about a new code. You said he didn't. I asked you the above question. You dodged and quoted scripture out of context to support your argument.
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